Sorry about not responding via the list, (and I missed some earlier messages). John you were right. Suse won't help unless I pay them, and it took quite a few e-mail messages from them before they just plain said that. I am reading the online manuals, and I'm going to keep a list of the different files and directories that get updated through YAST and YAST2, so I can track what is happening there. I have the internet connection working so I can get online with the Linux machine, but the IP addresses things just will not accept changes through YAST, so I guess I do have to do it directly with the files. I'm a little worried that I'll mess something up, but I have no files on the machine, so if that happens, I'll start all over again. Can I download Red Hat and Debian free from somewhere onto a Windows machine via DSL, so I can burn a CD of the OSs, and use them on the Linux machine? Marc On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:13:58 -0600, tclug-list at mn-linux.org wrote: > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: problem (John J. Trammell) > 2. Re: linux VAR in Twin Cities (Troy.A Johnson) > 3. RE: linux VAR in Twin Cities (James Spinti) > 4. mutt/imap/maildir (Amy Tanner) > 5. RE: Sony VAIO laptop repairs? (Hvidsten, Leif) > 6. creating databases for the web (Raymond Norton) > 7. Re: linux VAR in Twin Cities (Dave Sherohman) > 8. Re: problem (Ben Lutgens) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 07:43:32 -0600 > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] problem > From: "John J. Trammell" <trammell at trammell.dyndns.org> > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 12:12:15AM -0600, Marc Olivier wrote: > > ok, here is the situation with my request. I am going to pester Suse > > Linux, since it is there product, adn they should support it. > > Erm, you're likely to get better support here on TCLUG. > > > Thanks to those who responded for the offers of help, I appreciate > > it. > > So why didn't you respond to any of our posts? :-) > > > My main thing right now is, when I go into konsole, and I type lp, > > I get the following "Get_local_host: 'localhost' IP address not > > available!" > > That sUx0rs. > <stab type=3D"wild">What does your /etc/hosts file look like?</stab> > > > Now, I get this after setting host name as "linux" and domain name > > as "localhost", and I have the network address as follows: > > Network device =3Deth0 > > Setup method; Static address setup (because DHCP won't take at all > > without an external server address for some reason) > > Prolly because DHCP means that you have to talk to a server to get > your host config info. Again I ask: is your ISP set up to give you > a dynamic address? Do you have a dialup, DSL, cable, ISDN, what? > > > IP address=3D192.168.0.1 Subnet mask=3D255.255.255.0 > > Earlier, I had entered several addresses in the name server list, > > and now, I can't get them out. What is happening? > > Very likely your name server addresses got put into /etc/resolv.conf. > One of your other posts mentions that you have a dialup connection. > If you're not connected to your ISP, you're not going to be able to > do much with that. > > I'm puzzled as to what you are trying to do. It sounds like you're > working on printing, some sort of ethernet setup (eth0), some sort > of dialup setup (modem mentioned elsewhere), and some sort of name > service stuff. I would suggest the following to-do list, done in > the following order: > > 1. Get your host configured correctly; IP address, et cetera. > 2. Get dialup networking going. That way you can use the > host on the net to read mail and update packages. > 3. Get printing going. > > --=20 > johntrammell at yahoo.com | 78BA 706C C5F9 9321 E7C4 933B D063 907B A88E 924B > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List (TCLUG) > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org > > --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAjvn6QQACgkQ0GOQe6iOkkuH8QCeLyipmcvar2qqCzjzWKdqLe14 > JXQAoKBXQL+l8iHPhkw4db+X2xuUZ/zX > =eWf8 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 08:19:02 -0600 > From: "Troy.A Johnson" <troy.johnson at health.state.mn.us> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] linux VAR in Twin Cities > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Kent, > > It might be _really_ nice to see a writeup of this setup, > a couple paragraphs describing the benefits, and a > limited cost/benefit analysis too (like Bob did for web > servers (I think)). You probably are a pretty busy guy > and don't have time to do this, but I have a feeling it > might provide an essential element of the cure for your > particular brand of "loneliness". > > This is the kind of "ammo" anyone could use at a business > to say "Look, this is how they did it and they saved money > here and here, and they also got these benefits. How much > is XP gonna cost you again?". :-) > > Have a great day, > > Troy > > >>> kent at structural-wood.com 11/06/01 07:23AM >>> > We've been running Linux desktops on X-Terminals (and PC's running as X-Terminals) > for quite a while. We don't need help, but I wouldn't mind our operation being > used as a reference for others. Primary benefits are cost, cost, cost, > stability, controllability, and security. Did I mention cost? > > I would love to see others use Linux on the office desktop. It's a bit lonely out here... > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "James Spinti" <jspinti at dart.dartdist.com> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: RE: [TCLUG] linux VAR in Twin Cities > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:46:53 -0600 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > We are in the process of beginning a migration to Linux on the desktop here. > I have been talking to Dennis at Real-Time and feeding questions to Carl. > > If anybody knows of a good ACT/Maximizer/Goldmine replacement that runs on > Linux, please let me know. That and 2 proprietary packages are the only > things preventing a migration of everyone except HR and the Art department > (Quark on W2K). All of our accounting, order processing, etc takes place on > RS/6000s with IBM 3151 emulation, which Linux does very nicely, thank you. > So, most everything is e-mail, word processing, spreadsheets. Between WINE > and Open Office, we should be fine (he crosses his fingers...) > > Even some of my die hard MS lovers here are beginning to get sick of the > virus/worm of the week club and anti-virus software blowing away the print > spool in the middle of a 30 page print out :( > > > Thanks, > > James Spinti > jspinti at dartdist.com > 952-368-3278 x396 > fax 952-368-3255 > > |-----Original Message----- > |From: tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org > |[mailto:tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Kent Schumacher > |Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:23 AM > |To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > |Subject: Re: [TCLUG] linux VAR in Twin Cities > | > | > |Bob Tanner wrote: > |> > |> Quoting Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom (chrome at real-time.com): > |> > > Can > |> > > anyone suggest some local Value Added Resellers (VARs) that work with > |> > > linux in this capacity (LTSP)? Is this the kind of thing Real-Time > |> > > handles? I'd like to be able to say "Here are three > |different companies > |> > > that you can solicit for support on this." Thanks. > |> > |> We have been successful with Linux as a server, but we are still > |looking for > |> that one client to go linux on the desktop. > |> > |> As Carl said, call Dennis. I know we are offering 40hours of > |on-site consulting > |> for free (ie myself, Nate or Carl will sit at your site for 1 > |week and be part > |> of your helpdesk/support team). A greatly reduced hourly rate, etc... > |> > |> -- > |We've been running Linux desktops on X-Terminals (and PC's running > |as X-Terminals) > |for quite a while. We don't need help, but I wouldn't mind our > |operation being > |used as a reference for others. Primary benefits are cost, cost, cost, > |stability, controllability, and security. Did I mention cost? > | > |I would love to see others use Linux on the office desktop. It's > |a bit lonely out here... > | > |Kent > |_______________________________________________ > |Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > |Minnesota > |http://www.mn-linux.org > |tclug-list at mn-linux.org > |https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > | > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:22:33 -0600 > From: Amy Tanner <amy at real-time.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG] mutt/imap/maildir > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > In mutt, wow do you create imap folders on the server rather than in your > local ~/Mail dir? > -- > Amy Tanner > amy at real-time.com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "Hvidsten, Leif" <hvidsl at parknicollet.com> > To: "'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: RE: [TCLUG] Sony VAIO laptop repairs? > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:36:34 -0600 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Does anyone happen to know either a place where I > > can buy parts > > for these things, or a local repair shop that works on them? > > (Laptop's long out of warranty, so no worries about voiding > > anything..) > > There's an authorized Sony Repair Center right off Excelsior Blvd. > - From Hwy 100, go east on Excelsior Blvd. You will see the big Sony > sign on your left at the 36 1/2 St crossing. Here's the address: > > 4300 W 36-1/2 St St Louis Park MN 55416 > > And a couple of phone numbers: (800) 222-7669 or (952) 920-8000 > > I've brought my Trinitron TV there before to get the picture tube > replaced. > > > > > > -- > > Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.real-time.com | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. > > Paul, Minnesota > > http://www.mn-linux.org > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> > > iQA/AwUBO+gGMA0Fbeg2JuLNEQJ+tgCcCjGRnTxkvu/ftL+hf6pkrdnYmTYAniAm > wqYNCxFQFvkMcDOltIqOuFoa > =P4EC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > PRIVACY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain business confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If this e-mail was not intended for you, please notify the sender by reply e-mail that you received this in error. Destroy all copies of the original message and attachments. > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: "Raymond Norton" <ray at lctn.k12.mn.us> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:04:27 -0600 > Subject: [TCLUG] creating databases for the web > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C166AA.6B4FF440 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_001_004A_01C166AA.6B4FF440" > > > ------=_NextPart_001_004A_01C166AA.6B4FF440 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I am new to MySQL, so I am not sure what is available. I want to create = > db's that can be brought up via a web browser, so I can add information = > to them from any PC. 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We don't need help, but I wouldn't mind our operation being > > used as a reference for others. Primary benefits are cost, cost, cost, > > stability, controllability, and security. Did I mention cost? > > > > I would love to see others use Linux on the office desktop. It's a bit lonely out here... > > You're not the only one. I've got a network up here of mostly-Red > Hat boxen. (I can't take credit, though, as I inherited it from Ben > Kochie.) Currently about 80-85% linux, but Windows still has about a > dozen machines in its grip. (A dozen machines that are going to be > looked at very closely in the very near future, thanks to a letter I > received from Microsoft this morning "requesting" that we do a > license audit.) > > -- > When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists > have already won. - reverius > > Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Mr. Slippery > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:56:01 -0600 > From: Ben Lutgens <blutgens at sistina.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] problem > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 12:12:15AM -0600, Marc Olivier wrote: > > > > ok, here is the situation with my request. I am going to pester Suse > > Linux, since it is there product, adn they should support it. Thanks > > to those who responded for the offers of help, I appreciate it. My > > main thing right now is, when I go into konsole, and I type lp, I get > > the following > > > > "Get_local_host: 'localhost' IP address not available!" > > edit your /etc/hosts file. At a minimun you need > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > It's always nice to add your IP and a host.domain.com > 192.168.1.11 yourhostname.yourbugusdomain.com > > > now, I can't get them out. What is happening? > You're using SuSE, which means that if you edit those files and then at a > later time run Yast it'll reset everything to the way it thinks it should > be. Suse intends for you to ONLY admin your box with YaST. Though why > =E6nyone would use that thing is beyond me, it takes 10 times as long to use > YaST and navigate through untill you find what you want. > > Perhaps you should give RedHat-7.2 a try. > > > --=20 > Ben Lutgens > Sistina Software Inc=20 > Sysadmin, Prime Minister of Email, President of DLT Operations > Internet RepairMan, Senior Packet Routing Supervisor, File Server Monkey > > this rest of this space intentionally left blank. > > --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE76BYhLxkxGgLdGQgRAv2kAJ0euLWUjj1M+XMBWzilaVipRimaSwCbBEUK > xjHY7A0Uar/lQZc5vwD9J1E= > =hZLN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > End of tclug-list Digest _______________________________________________________ http://inbox.excite.com