Perhaps I should have clarified myself. I like what hailstorm is doing for pushing SOAP and RPC in general into the teeming masses of devices. As a corporate developer, this sort of thing just makes my life so much easier. It's not as if I haven't had other ways to get stuff done this whole time, this just happens to be a new way. So for all that, it's nifty stuff. The other bit, and this is a biggie, is the control this gives to MS over the whole protocol. Since MS holds all the authentication and related data there's a huge gaping wide chasm between the raw MS implementation and MS-less hailstorm. I'm likely to check out Sun's JXTA since I've actually read more stuff on that and it seems less likely to be an analogue to selling my soul to MS's data centers. Essentially, I like the idea of a Megaco-less Hailstorm. I won't, however, be using Hailstorm anytime soon given it's current dependancies. I just think the issue is more complex than Hailstorm == Microsoft.Bad(). Unless I'm missing something I'd probably really like a GNU (or even better, BSD) licensed Hailstorm. Josh Jore ___SIG___ On Thu, 31 May 2001, Dave Sherman wrote: > You might want to read these articles before you make any judgments in > favor of hailstorm. They are a bit long (especially the second one), but > well written and informative. > > http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2001/05/30/hailstorm.html > http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/200104/200104.htm > > Dave > > On Thursday 31 May 2001 08:02, thus spake Joshua Jore: > > Heh. I think you're crazy. Or at least from my corporatist perspective, > > it's damn unlikely to switch OS platforms on anything beyond a seismic > > shift. I think MS is too PR savvy to shoot themselves in the foot that > > badly. Witness Hailstorm. That is some pretty neat technology. It just > > happens to leave the keys to the kingdom in MS's hand. If it turns out > > that really matters to the joe-user/joe-corporatist then maybe that's a > > bad move. If it doesn't rain on those users too much then it's not *too* > > bad. > > > > Josh > > > > -- > "Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No > fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money." > - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >