oops, the line in my last message that reads: root at homer:# lpd -P skinner xwindows.txt actually should read: root at homer:# lpd -P hptq xwindows.txt Doh, thanks for any help... -.bill.layer.- -.those who are talking don't know, and those who know aren't talking.- -.frogtown.- -.minnesota.- -.u.s.a.-