"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > What do you need out of the server. Each server has its own features and > they all have drawbacks. Ya, I noticed. Found one that seems to be what I need. zeus.ligtel.com and.... news.ligtel.com I think there basically the same. What I'm looking for (was looking for) are some news groups pertaining/related to programming (specifically games and lowlevel stuff) and the like. Also looking for a good server for someone else that is looking for math stuff. I think this one'll do. sim