(Idiot) Ben, I have to say, Gentoo rocks! Actually, I haven't used it yet. I'm in the process of installing it. And, I'm using the machine that I'm install it on right this moment! The install CD has everything, even ssh! I ifconfig-ed up my interface, set my route and ssh-ed out to a box to send this mail! /me is elated! Even if you don't install gentoo, the install CD would make a _great_ rescue disk :) Every one has to at least give Gentoo a try. The installation's a bit raw, but their installation instructions are good. Gabe -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gabe Turner gabe at msi.umn.edu SGI Origin Systems Administrator, University of Minnesota Supercomputing Institute for Digital Simulation and Advanced Computation www.msi.umn.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------