According to the latest SPEC2000 benchmarks, the IBM eServer pSeries 690 Turbo is a screamer. It has a "POWER4" CPU in it. I've never heard of the machine or the CPU before. Has anyone else? Here are links to the SPECint200 and SPECfp2000 for the box: http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2001q4/cpu2000-20011105-01104.htm l http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2001q4/cpu2000-20011004-00972.htm l Other things to note are that AMD has overtaken Intel in the integer benchmark and would be the leader if it weren't for the IBM screamer, but Intel has made tons of ground on the Alpha in the floating point benchmark and left AMD far behind. Mike