For other users it is not only unethical but also rude. An administrator on the otherhand has every right to check what goes through the mail. At work the administrator is responsible for all material on the server and that includes that email from hot-kiddie-pron-today. Even then it is still rude and ethically shady but it is a requirement at work. -munir On 3 Dec 2001, Ben Lutgens wrote: > On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 10:40, Austad, Jay wrote: > > Unfortunately, some users who like to snoop are also admins. > > Personally I find that sort of behavior unethical. I think if I every > caught someone working with/for me as an admin searching through our > customers (read:users) email or data and they didn't have a valid > reason, it would be grounds for dismissal. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ben Lutgens [mailto:blutgens at sistina.com] > > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:11 AM > > > To: tclug > > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] mail clients > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 06:59, Jay Kline wrote: > > > > For privacy reasons, I dont want to keep the mail on my server any > > > > longer > > > > than possible. There are people who like to snoop... :-( > > > > > > Then those people don't need access to the server. You could > > > chroot those users, and restrict them with a menu interface > > > if they absolutely need shell like access. > > > > > > > > > > > I am on the Charter Pipeline cable modem now (sucks), so I have a > > > > dynamic IP > > > > and cannot run my own. > > > > > > > > I have other biases also. > > > > > > > > The main question was is there a console based mail client that can > > > > read the > > > > same local format as Kmail. It sounds like mutt will, so I > > > will give that a > > > > try. > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > On Sunday 02 December 2001 10:39 pm, you wrote: > > > > > Why is storing the mail on the server an undesirable > > > trait? Can you > > > > > set up your own system with IMAP running? > > > > > > > > > > Joseph > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Jay Kline" <list at slushpupie.com> > > > > > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 7:37 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] mail clients > > > > > > > > > > > The only problem with IMAP is the mail is stored on the server, > > > > > > which at > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > moment is an undesirable trait. I get the same basic > > > > > > functionality by > > > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > > > several POP accounts. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 29 November 2001 10:17 am, you wrote: > > > > > > > On your mail server, or the machine you read your mail from, > > > > > > > setup > > > > > > > > > > imaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > mkdir ~/mail. Use fetchmail to get mail from other > > > servers. Use > > > > > > > procmail > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > sort your mail into folders under ~/mail. Configure imap mail > > > > > > > clients to use ~/mail as your folder prefix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At anyrate, kmail seems to use mbox format. So you > > > could use any > > > > > > > imap client or pine or whatever to access kmail's folders. I > > > > > > > perfer just > > > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > > IMAP so I can switch mail clients on a whim and not > > > worry about > > > > > > > losing mail. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - > > > Minneapolis/St. Paul, > > > > > > > > > > Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mn-linux.org > > > > > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - > > > Minneapolis/St. Paul, > > > > > Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jay Kline > > > > list at slushpupie.com > > > > http://www.slushpupie.com > > > > -- > > > > Q: What do you call the money you pay to the government when > > > > you ride into the country on the back of an elephant? > > > > A: A howdah duty. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - > > > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > > > http://www.mn-linux.org > > > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > -- > > > Ben Lutgens > > > Sistina Software Inc. > > > Kernel panic: I have no root and I want to scream > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > http://www.mn-linux.org > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > --