Ok, most (all?) of us know Qwest sucks. Most of us know McLeod sucks. I've worked with PacBell and I have to say they suck. It looks like Verizon sucks http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1004-200-6814696.html It looks like AT&T and @Home sucks http://help.broadband.att.com/faq.jsp?content_id=792&category_id=54 So, are there any Telco or Cable modem providers that don't suck? -- Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9