----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Dier" <dieman+tclug at ringworld.org>
To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TCLUG] AT&T/Mediaone does it again?


> * Thomas T. Veldhouse <veldy at veldy.net> [010809 09:00]:
> > many DSL users CAN run servers.  They need to compete.  Cable
infrastructure
> > is setup as a client system and not a server system.  It is very
>
> Not because of the technology, but policing thousands of napster/etc
> services got really stupid annoying.
>

Yes, because of technology.  You clog your upload pipe on a Cable Modem, and
all other uses on the node may suffer your greediness (DOCIS seems to have
changed that some with timeshare round-robin stuff).  A few people on the
node clog the upload pipe and the entire node becomes congested because acks
on regular user downloads can not get through.  On DSL, assuming a properly
configured ATM cloud, a single user clogs their upload pipe and it does not
affect ANY other user until it gets to the ISP level.  That level cable
modem users must also endure.  So, with the cable modem, your neighbors can
screw you as well as your ISP, with DSL, only your ISP can screw you.
Since, AT&T has not control at the neighborhood level, they don't want users
hosting services.  The only thing they can do is reassign homes to different
nodes (which is most likely expensive, especially if they reduce the number
of users per node) or cut of the service.

Tom Veldhouse
veldy at veldy.net

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