I feel the same way about sun keyboards. There are two 450's and a 250 at work that I use regularly, and I would actually consider buying a keyboard with a more standard layout to plug in when i use them, but then I would have to reboot them every time (unplugging the keyboard causes the machine to halt) and that would suck, cuz as nice as they are, they take FOREVER to reboot! anyway...i'm done ranting -Kremer On 30 Apr 2001 13:26:53 -0500, Phil Mendelsohn wrote: > OK, first, let me say how much I hate Sun's keyboards. Every time I want > to capitalize the letter 'o' I postpone the message I'm composing. I > submit that this is why *nix folks don't like to capitalize.