Sorry, my bad. Reread your original message and smacked myself because KDM is working. Sorry. Have you checked ~/.xsession-errors for error messages? Or /var/log/xdm (or syslog...dun't member where kdm puts logs...) -- Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (PH) 763-428-9119 (EX) 132 21801 Industrial Blvd | (FX) 763-428-9126 Rogers, MN 55374 | (PCS) 612-306-6055