Hi Liz, > speaking of - something I've always wanted to know, but never got the > nerve to ask...I'm VERY familiar with editing the .login file for use on > csh, tcsh, etc...but what about bash? bash doesn't seem to operate the > same way and I'm so used to my customized environmnet in tcsh, it's about > the ONLY reason I haven't played much with bash. how do you set up alias's > there? Systemwide environment settings for any user login on any shell are in: /etc/profile In the user's home dir, two files set up the environment: ~/.profile - universal setings for any shell login, for that user ~/.bash_profile - specific to bash logins only, for that user -- Bill Layer Sales Technician <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>