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>    1. RE: Do I need my 675? (Austad, Jay)
>    2. Re: Do I need my 675? (Bill Layer)
>    3. RE: Do I need my 675? (Austad, Jay)
>    4. Re: [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!! (Nate Carlson)
>    5. Re: Squid log analysis (Nate Carlson)
>    6. Re: Do I need my 675? (Bill Layer)
>    7. Re: [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!! (Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom)
>    8. apache (Brett Astleford)
>    9. Re: [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!! (Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom)
>   10. Re: Do I need my 675? (Ben Lutgens)
>   11. Re: [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!! (Nate Carlson)
>   12. Re: apache (Ben Lutgens)
>   13. Re: apache (Cook, Justin S.)
>   14. To ORBS or not to ORBS that is the question (Bob Tanner)
>   15. RE: Do I need my 675? (Austad, Jay)
>   16. A little clarification... (mjn)
>
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>
> Message: 1
> From: "Austad, Jay" <austad at marketwatch.com>
> To: "'tclug-list at lists.real-time.com'" <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com>
> Subject: RE: [TCLUG] Do I need my 675?
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:37:27 -0600
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> The only way to dump the cisco 675 would be if someone made a kernel
module
> for the Intel 2100 interal aDSL/ATM card.  Then you'd have to figure out a
> way to fit it on the coyote disk, which wouldn't be hard if you didn't
need
> pppd on it (pppd weighs in at 147k).  From what it looks like, this will
> never happen.
>
> Jay
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Lutgens [mailto:blutgens at sistina.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:43 AM
> > To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Do I need my 675?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 12:54:53AM -0600, Bob Tanner wrote:
> > >Quoting Timothy Wilson (wilson at visi.com):
> > >
> > >What decodes the DSL signaling? Is there some sort of DSL card in it?
> > >
> > Yeah, that's the problem. I did see a PCI CSU/DSU card for
> > sale once (At LWE I
> > think) Seems to me it ran linux on chip. Might as well stay
> > with the cisco
> > FWIW.
> > --
> > Ben Lutgens cell: 612.670.4789 http://www.sistina.com/
> > Sistina Software Inc. work: 612.379.3951
> > Code Monkey Support (A.K.A. System Administrator)
> > Key fingerprint = A69A 118D 710B 8EB0 DC3B  D912 2F19 311A 02DD 1908
> >
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: "Bill Layer" <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>
> Organization: Viking Electronics, Inc.
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:48:36 -0600
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Do I need my 675?
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> On Tuesday 05 December 2000 09:37, you wrote:
> > The only way to dump the cisco 675 would be if someone made a kernel
module
> > for the Intel 2100 interal aDSL/ATM card.
>
> I was given the impression that the Intel 2100 aDSL modem is an HSP design
> aka Win Modem. Can anyone confirm or deny?
>
> If this is true, can anyone accurately ascertain how much that sucks? ;)
>
>
> --
> Bill Layer
>
> <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: "Austad, Jay" <austad at marketwatch.com>
> To: "'tclug-list at lists.real-time.com'" <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com>
> Subject: RE: [TCLUG] Do I need my 675?
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:02:45 -0600
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> > I was given the impression that the Intel 2100 aDSL modem is
> > an HSP design
> > aka Win Modem. Can anyone confirm or deny?
>
> I seem to remember reading the same thing somewhere.  I know Cisco makes
one
> of these PCI cards though also.  I wonder if Cisco's is built the same.  I
> know USWorst switched to Intel from the Cisco card, I assume to cut costs.
> If the Cisco card was alot more expensive, there may be a good chance that
> it's not HSP.  Of course, it's Cisco and subject to price inflation
because
> of the name.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Layer [mailto:b.layer at vikingelectronics.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:49 AM
> > To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Do I need my 675?
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday 05 December 2000 09:37, you wrote:
> > > The only way to dump the cisco 675 would be if someone made
> > a kernel module
> > > for the Intel 2100 interal aDSL/ATM card.
> >
> > I was given the impression that the Intel 2100 aDSL modem is
> > an HSP design
> > aka Win Modem. Can anyone confirm or deny?
> >
> > If this is true, can anyone accurately ascertain how much
> > that sucks? ;)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Layer
> >
> > <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > tclug-list mailing list
> > tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:13:02 -0600 (CST)
> From: Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com>
> To: <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!!
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
> > 4-speaker flat-panel array with subwoofer. he wins stereo wars. :)
> > now if only he'd get some new music... ;>
>
> eh, you just can't take classics, my good man.
>
> --
> Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com>   | Phone : (952)943-8700
> http://www.real-time.com                | Fax   : (952)943-8500
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:14:17 -0600 (CST)
> From: Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com>
> To: TCLUG List <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Squid log analysis
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Andy Zbikowski wrote:
> > I just finished setting up webalizer to analize squid's logfiles. To get
it
> > working I grabbed
> > squid2common.pl ( http://www.unimelb.edu.au/pwebstats/squid2common.pl )
and
> > set it up in cron to run before webalizer. I thought webalizer supported
> > squids logfiles without extra help but couldn't find anything in the
> > documentation.
> >
> > For now, this should ge me the information I want. I figured I'd give
> > webalizer a try since I was allrady somewhat familiar with it and it is
a
> > package in Debian. But if anyone has any success/horror stories about
other
> > packages ( http://www.squid-cache.org/Scripts/ ) I'd love to hear them
> > (along with any recomendations)
> >
> > Since we are using Squid to sorta filter internet sites it would be nice
to
> > get a more indepth analysis of sites visited, but for now, webalizer
fits
> > the bill.
>
> sqmgrlog is pretty cool. i haven't gotten it working quite right yet, but
> it's nice..
>
> --
> Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com>   | Phone : (952)943-8700
> http://www.real-time.com                | Fax   : (952)943-8500
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: "Bill Layer" <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>
> Organization: Viking Electronics, Inc.
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:14:19 -0600
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Do I need my 675?
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> BTW,
>
> >  I know USWorst switched to Intel from the Cisco card,
>
> I have a spare, new in the box Intel 2100 aDSL modem. Includes the line
> filters, etc. Anyone wants it, make an offer.
>
> --
> Bill Layer
> Sales Technician
> <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:19:16 -0600
> From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <chrome at real-time.com>
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!!
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> > > now if only he'd get some new music... ;>
> >
> > eh, you just can't take classics, my good man.
>
> I don't think the Bloodhound Gang constitutes 'classics'.
> ...well, maybe to a young'un like youself...
>
> ;>
>
> Carl Soderstrom
> --
> Network Engineer
> Real-Time Enterprises
> (952) 943-8700
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Brett Astleford" <bastleford at platinumdg.com>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:22:39 -0600
> Subject: [TCLUG] apache
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> Hi,
> My apache sever will not let me post information.  I get the 405 =
> error(see below).  Is this a httpd.conf problem or permissions problem?  =
> Help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks,
>
> error# 405 method not allowed(post method)
> ver: Apache/1.3.14
>
> Brett Astleford=20
> Platinum Design Group=20
> bastleford at platinumdg.com
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>My apache sever will not let me post=20
> information.&nbsp; I get the 405 error(see below).&nbsp; Is this=20
> a&nbsp;httpd.conf&nbsp;problem or permissions problem?&nbsp; Help would =
> be=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>thanks,</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>error# 405 method not allowed(post=20
> method)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>ver: Apache/1.3.14</FONT></DIV>
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:30:57 -0600
> From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <chrome at real-time.com>
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!!
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> > Actually, a company in Hamil MN (apparently 30 mins from mpls) bought
the
> > blueprints and makes something called the "Avant
> > Stellar" (http://www.cvtinc.com/kybdfeatures.htm), which is
> > supposedly the samething, but with Windoze keys. And for $170. For the
> > CHEAP ones.
> >
> > Ok, this keyboard is HEAVY - it's made of steel. It is EXTREMELY
> > resilient. The keys CLICK most satisfyingly.
> >
> > Also, most models are VERY programmable. You can interchange the
locations
> > of the Ctrl and CAPSlock, among others. Or Dvorak it. The key caps are
all
> > removable.
> >
> > Oh, you can get them with the F-Keys on the side, where they belong.
>
> only problem I see with them, is that they have those oversized <enter>
> keys; which are a complete waste of space. at least they don't look like
> they cropped the <backspace> key. I've never had trouble hitting the
> normal-sized <enter> key; but undersized <backspace> keys drive me nuts.
> (when you mistype as often as I do, backspace keys are very important).
>
> they look interesting, tho.
>
> Carl.
> --
> Network Engineer
> Real-Time Enterprises
> (952) 943-8700
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:34:48 -0600
> From: Ben Lutgens <blutgens at sistina.com>
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Do I need my 675?
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
>
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> On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 09:48:36AM -0600, Bill Layer wrote:
> >
> >If this is true, can anyone accurately ascertain how much that sucks? ;)
> >
> Bill, is this even a question?=20
> --=20
> Ben Lutgens cell: 612.670.4789 http://www.sistina.com/
> Sistina Software Inc. work: 612.379.3951
> Code Monkey Support (A.K.A. System Administrator)
> Key fingerprint =3D A69A 118D 710B 8EB0 DC3B  D912 2F19 311A 02DD 1908
>
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:37:22 -0600 (CST)
> From: Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com>
> To: <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!!
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
> > > > now if only he'd get some new music... ;>
> > >
> > > eh, you just can't take classics, my good man.
> >
> > I don't think the Bloodhound Gang constitutes 'classics'.
> > ...well, maybe to a young'un like youself...
>
> that's just random crap that made my playlist.. hehe
>
> --
> Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com>   | Phone : (952)943-8700
> http://www.real-time.com                | Fax   : (952)943-8500
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:41:46 -0600
> From: Ben Lutgens <blutgens at sistina.com>
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] apache
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
>
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> On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 10:22:39AM -0600, Brett Astleford wrote:
> <FLAME_BAIT>
> Your problems are probably due to the fast that you use Outlook Express as
> your  mail client.
>
> Once again we have inconsiderate people posting to the list these
multipart
> alternative. God is it so hard to understand?
> </FLAME_BAIT>
>
> Now on to your question. First of all you should be aware that this is NOT
> enough information for anyone to riddle out your problem. At a minimum you
> need to following.
>
> Distro You're using.
> What you try to accomplish (more detail needed)
> Exact errors (i.e. log excerpts)
> Version of software
>
> Secondly before you post to a list, please read the mailing list archives
> (both for tclug and in this case apache), the documentation that came with
> your software and on the website of the software in question. Being an
> administrator who babysits a couple webserver I can tell you that I have
ne=
> ver
> had a problem finding info on the apache website. And I guarantee your
> question will be answered there.
>
> It looks like it's definitely an httpd.conf problem.
>
> --=20
> Ben Lutgens cell: 612.670.4789 http://www.sistina.com/
> Sistina Software Inc. work: 612.379.3951
> Code Monkey Support (A.K.A. System Administrator)
> Key fingerprint =3D A69A 118D 710B 8EB0 DC3B  D912 2F19 311A 02DD 1908
>
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>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 10:44:07 -0600
> From: "Cook, Justin S." <jcook at k-lug.com>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] apache
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> Are you posting to an HTML file? What are you posting to/from?
>
> Justin Cook
> mailto:jcook at k-lug.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brett Astleford <bastleford at platinumdg.com>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:22 AM
> Subject: [TCLUG] apache
>
>
> Hi,
> My apache sever will not let me post information.  I get the 405 error(see
> below).  Is this a httpd.conf problem or permissions problem?  Help would
be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks,
>
> error# 405 method not allowed(post method)
> ver: Apache/1.3.14
>
> Brett Astleford
> Platinum Design Group
> bastleford at platinumdg.com
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:07:52 -0600
> From: Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: [TCLUG] To ORBS or not to ORBS that is the question
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> I have got several scathing email about spam mail on the mailing list.
>
> First, I'd like to say I am an legitimate child, so naming calling of my
mother
> is not very nice. :-P
>
> Second, yes, the email can be vulgar.
>
> Third, yes, we can block more of it.
>
> On point 3, I am putting it to the list. I can turn ORBS back on, but it
seems
> to block lots of legitimate email. In fact several people sent email to me
> asking why ORBS bounced them.
>
> So, there it is. To ORBS or not to ORBS.
>
> Clay/Scott can you do a poll on the web site?
>
> List is open to discussion...
>
> --
> Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com>       | Phone : (612)943-8700
> http://www.mn-linux.org                 | Fax   : (612)943-8500
> Key fingerprint =  6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> From: "Austad, Jay" <austad at marketwatch.com>
> To: "'tclug-list at lists.real-time.com'" <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com>
> Subject: RE: [TCLUG] Do I need my 675?
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:06:22 -0600
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> > I have a spare, new in the box Intel 2100 aDSL modem.
> > Includes the line
> > filters, etc. Anyone wants it, make an offer.
>
> I have two of em.  <slashdot troll>Maybe we could build a beowulf cluster
> out of them</slashdot troll>
>
> :)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Layer [mailto:b.layer at vikingelectronics.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:14 AM
> > To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Do I need my 675?
> >
> >
> > BTW,
> >
> > >  I know USWorst switched to Intel from the Cisco card,
> >
> > I have a spare, new in the box Intel 2100 aDSL modem.
> > Includes the line
> > filters, etc. Anyone wants it, make an offer.
> >
> > --
> > Bill Layer
> > Sales Technician
> > <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>
> > _______________________________________________
> > tclug-list mailing list
> > tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:10:28 -0600 (CST)
> From: mjn <mjn at umn.edu>
> To: Twirling Pickles of Death <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com>
> Subject: [TCLUG] A little clarification...
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
>
> I posted something about this yesterday but i think was rather foggy on
> details and had words like "novell" and "groupwise" in it so no one paid
> attention.  I have thought a bit more about it and here is the revised
> situation...
>
> The shop I work in is in the process of retiring some old host names.  We
> are working towards shutting down an old mercury mail server and we would
> like to, along with redirecting any mail coming into that server, notify
> all senders that the host name/addres has changed.
>
> So, basically, we would like to forward all incoming mail to the correct
> new address(we have these aliases already), and would also like to
> generate an email to send back to the orginator of the message.
>
> This email, in the best of all worlds, would have some information on the
> hostname change and would also look in our aliases and pull out the
> correct email address(based on where it was sent to and the alias that
> corresponds to it) so that the user can easily update their address book.
>
> Anyone have ideas?
>
> I figure we would just tack a pointer to a script onto the alias and have
> that script do all the work; that way the mail gets forwarded and another
> copy goes to the mail processing script.  My only problem is I am unsure
> of what scripting language I should use (procmail?) and if reading the
> alias file will be possible.  Anyone know of a pre-built script which will
> do this?
>
> Thanks...
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