First off, how is it that SPAM can be sent to a subscription based e-mail list? Are SPAMers actually taking the effort to subscrib to the list in order to spam it, are they disgusing themselves as a legitimate subscriber or the list itself, or is the list now open to those who aren't subscribed? Is this hole due to the migration process or something? Try redoing the ezlm (or whatever...) aliases to pipe through mail man instead (can't be that hard to do...though I've never played with ezlm) or if the old list address is retired retire it and be done with it. Post the new address as an announcment on the website. If people can't figure out the darn address changed well, too bad. They're either lazy, stupid, don't care, or maybe a combination of the three. And finially, stop CCing/sEnding to both lists addresses Jay! :) Excuse my foul mood today... -- Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (PH) 763-428-9119 (EX) 132 21801 Industrial Blvd | (FX) 763-428-9126 Rogers, MN 55374 | (PCS) 612-306-6055