Ok, I know how to upgrade redhat without a floppy, now how about without a reboot, ie on a running system? I upgrade rpms all the time on this system while it's running and it's fine, this is not a heavily loaded system in case you're wondering, just happens to be my gateway and I don't want that to go down if possible. I figure I can just rpm -Uvh everything, but that's a lot of typing, can I just run the installer from the image or something like that? -- Jon Schewe | http://eggplant.mtu.net/~jpschewe For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8:38-39 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org