> > this seems a bit kludgy, tho. can anyone think of a better way to do it? > I had to chmod /var/log/messages to be group-readable to make this work. Kinda [OT] but still related, I made a discovery last night that I was hoping would never happen. Since RedHat 4.0, I've always built my dialup connections by running netcfg under X. I created a PPP device, pointed it at /dev/modem, assigned it my static IP from my ISP, ifup ppp0'd, and poof it worked. Last night I installed Redhat Pinstripe, and when I run netcfg the PPP option is no longer there (although SLIP is, go figure). How can I set up a ppp0 without using netcfg? I want a commandline based dialup (AKA not Kppp) and I'm not sure how to set it up without netcfg. Can anyone give me some pointers? -Bian ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org